Sunday, July 27, 2003

Well it was an AWESOME trip to Canada!! I had a blast meeting w/the Oct ladies, just wish we all could have spent more time together but it was still fun overall... Life has been as busy as ever since we returned but I will find some time to blog again this week.... Til next time..

Thursday, July 10, 2003

Well the house looks AWESOME!! I got 10 hrs of sleep and the car is all packed!!! AND WE ARE OFF!!!!!!!!!! See you all when we get back from vacation!!! {{{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}}}

Til next time...

Wednesday, July 09, 2003

Ok breath in, breath out... nice long cleansing breaths!!! Release, feel the negative energy flow from your being.... breath in, breath out....

Let go and let god.... That's one of the rules to live by from Alanon -- it's my new motto.... That and the serenity prayer will be my new companions... I just hope I can rise to the challenge...

Lots been going on in my life recently - Well you have all read the majority of it below and I won't even start to rehash it again other then to say it would really be nice if others could see the validity of MY feelings and thoughts rather then crucifying me for mine and glorifying others for the same basic feelings.... But that's that.... I am letting it go...

I have been under some major stress at work with a large task and a short deadline but as usual I managed to complete it... not w/o alot of extra hassles though... I am just glad to be done with it all... I am working one extra night on top of all the extra hours I just put in to complete the task... but this is it... after I am done tonight I am out of here til the 16th and I can't wait!!!!

I have made GREAT progress on the house... I am down to the last few loads of laundry to be washed and then some day I will get it all folded and put away! *L* But hey I managed to clean out all the rooms and vaccum, mop, do all the dishes, clean out the fridge, wipe down the stove, mop the floors, etc... and now to just maintain... Only one more day and a wake up before we are on our way!!!

A lovely long long weekend in Canada at Niagra Falls!!! We will rest, take in the sights and just relax.... I look forward to sitting around and talking to my friends from the Oct 99 PG boards.... Well it's off to get my normal duties done early so I can rest because I am wiped out... Til next time...

Saturday, July 05, 2003

Warning!!!! Enter at your own risk, the views expressed here are not necessarily the views of management and all those other nifty warnings… and now, the other side of the story – a collaborative effort that may ramble and even be a tad repeatative but like a bulimic I must purge after the binge…..

Several ladies are expressing their anger and hurt at the set up of a new board and the fact they weren't invited. There was no one "invited" just informed that we were moving. Many of the active iVillager posters knew a new board was coming since the new format was just more than we could hack. We gave it our best and found that we just could not work with it. We moved on Saturday the 28th 2 full days before any board deletion. In my opinion the fact it happened so close to one another is coincidence. As for the "invites" it began as informing current members of the PP board. Those that had moved to the 54 board had been mentioned but it was unsure if that by contacting any we would then be accused of splitting the board or some other accusation plus we don’t have the email addresses of everyone, some on 54 even stated only one or two people have their email. Add to that lack of sleep and foggy brain function, some people were inadvertently overlooked and I am sorry for that. But gee here it is day 4/5 of the new 54 board there are still some THERE that have not been contacted w/the new link??? Hmmmmmmmmm What’s good for the goose ISN”T good for the gander??? Life is really just a lot of one way streets??

We felt that it was best not to overstep the boundaries of the two boards for the sake of group harmony. Anyone coming and posting to the PP board looking for any of us would have been contacted with our new address. It was never done in secret, it was just done after repeated requests from some for a more friendly place to converse.

As for the "why's" to why some chose not to move to the 54 board? Well, some have made their reasons VERY clear why they refuse to move to the 54 board and it has NOTHING to do with loyalty to the PP board. The message deleting and IP banning at 54 only reinforced those opinions. ESP after LENGTHY discussions on 54 about the fact that NO ONE was or would be banned!! But seems they were just words and people have been and ARE banned – ask your leader – she admitted it once, will she again?? And isn’t it just sooo funny that shortly after she DID admit it that the original 54 board was deleted sometime after 11 pm EST after the last visitor was logged at 10:59 EST (and just how long did that person visit Leslie? Sitemeter DOES provide that information) Add to that the fact that the new 54 board was created almost immediately at just before 1am EST (less then 2 hrs of time frame) -- just a bit tooo much coincidence in THAT aspect for me.. NO ONE from IV/TPP or that I associate with deleted anyone's fucking board... And the new board was started because so many people kept asking me to start a new one because they couldn't get to IV so I finally caved in... and I don't appreciate the accusations and EXCLUSIVENESS of those running 54 - ESP those I THOUGHT were my friends!!!!! AND it was started mid day SATURDAY for the fucking RECORD!! ONLY an OWNER can delete a forum... believe what you want but it's the truth… And as for tracking IP addresses – well yes you can see the last person to visit the board but administrative tasks are performed in another area that is NOT tracked by sitemeter any other such program… Go create a board, play around, put on sitemeter and see for yourself… And while we are on the subject of SITEMETER – WHY is it a private account for a PUBLIC board??? Why can we NOT see the list of visitors to the 54 board???

We moved because we missed chatting with each other. The vote was for the majority to move to 54 and the majority did. Why did anyone think that everyone would move? They have every right to want a place they feel comfortable enough to chat in a forum that will not ban the or delete them only because the owner doesn't like the person or what she's read. (and this HAS happened!)

Funny but don’t ya think it’s ironic how some feel betrayed we set up the board and hurt we didn't ask them/tell them first..... Hmmmmmmmmmmmm gee isn't that how I felt and posted about and got accused of being sophmoric and childish??? Not to beat a dead horse but I would have thought my friends would have given Kat and I the curteousy of talking to us as we were/are the leaders before they started 54 to start and THAT is what hurt.... not that we didn’t need a new place or even one was created but that we weren't given any curteousy or respect and asked first – THAT has been the issue atleast with me all long… and I did go to 54 and ask about a 3rd board…. My ass was handed to me on a silver platter for stirring up drama and creating problems… SOOO the majority voted to stay at 54 (but not ALL as some have stated in their opinions… it was NEVER a unanimous vote for 54 nor was the decision of the majority ever the end all be all regarding the fate of where the Oct 99 ladies would meet to converse) but as stated earlier some just weren’t comfortable there or couldn’t get there and had been asking/begging for a new home to chat at… If 54 had already stated their position once why go back over and rehash it all and stir things up AGAIN??? And why bother voting again?? You won’t get a full and unbiased vote – ESP considering WHERE the post was placed…. Most of the ladies there have made up their minds…

The board was already split before the set up of this newest board, and in reality perhaps the wedges were put in place somewhere surrounding the time frame of 9/11. Your choice was respected so please respect the choice of others. We want to share with and enjoy each other and we are trying to put all pettiness aside.

And gee while I am at THANKS FOR MY INVITE to the new 54!!!! Yes I have the link, found it on my own thank you very much… such a warm and welcoming home there, don’t ya think??? And stating that you didn’;t have my email is CRAP because I am almost always on AIM and anyone one of you could have found there and told me! And how soo polite and considerate to post a cryptic and vague message regarding an email on the new board telling only vaguely of a new 54…. Trying to stir things up and cause drama and trouble??? Please don’t start all that again…

Nor is the irony lost on me how suddenly many are considering the TTP board almost immediately after I posted I don't want to be a leader there.... As Leslie stated in a post “Sorry but I have put a lot of time and effort into this board and I don't appreciate it being torn apart in a way *I* think was intentional. Everything that has happened was very back handed and secretive.”

OH MY!!!!!!!!! You don’t say Leslie??? Geee but seems that Kat and I can soooo relate to those feelings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have put A LOT of time and effort into trying to be the best leader that I can for OVER TWO YEARS at IV/PP and YOU didn’t seem to care about that but now YOU want sympathy?? And again THANKS for the invite/information regarding a new 54 board…. That wasn’t done secretively at all now was it??? And you say the board is not exclusive??? Actions DO speak louder then words… < Continued>

And an FYI about the post stating “They are asking for suggestions for who to moderate, this would be a chance to put some fresh blood in that position. I'd like to see a neutral party there (someone like Brenda, Kelli, Cindy (both of them), or many of the others who have been here and there and at all boards, not someone who is partial to one board over the other).” For the record I HAVE been to ALL boards – maybe I wasn’t an active poster (and do you really blame me after all had settled?) and I wasn’t particularly “PARTIAL” to any board but seeing how I must have been such a crappy leader based on vague comments here and there I am more then happy to hand the reigns over to ANYONE else….

And regarding “missed the behind the scenes stuff too until it was brought up here by the 'behind the sceners' I guess.” That is absolutely right…. There was NOOO behind the scenes stuff atleast not anything that I was involved in…. after the original “discussions” regarding a new board I let it go, my ass is still healing…. I held no ill will and I did my best to move on, I lurked to keep up w/the ladies I THOUGHT were my friends and responded to them via email or IM when I could…. So if there is/was any thing going on “behind the scenes” perhaps those of you that mentioned it and/or were involved need to speak up since you seem to know more then others…

Now as for the “accusations” and denial of such…. Well you can come to your conclusions, perhaps I wasn’t directly accused but there WAS an accusation made..

From: Gunter, Angeline W CECOM ACQ
To: Leslie
Sent: 7/1/03 6:04 AM
Subject: RE: Hello????

I never said I wasn't going to start a new board and yes I was gonna
wait til the end of the summer but a few women kept asking for a new
place so I caved in.... And that new board was started on Saturday not
just yesterday..... You can believe what you want and think what you
want but I had nothing to do w/your board... I went there, read the
posts and occasionally contacted one of the ladies regarding a post but
that is it... I mean you no harm or ill will... Perhaps you need to
contact whomever controls 54 - I hope you get some answers... Gotta
run... TTFN

>> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leslie
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 5:03 AM
> To: Gunter, Angeline W CECOM ACQ
> Subject: Re: Hello????
>
> I DID NOT delete the forum, someone else did. How odd that it all happened
> on the day that you started a new board? I thought that you weren't going
> to do that? You said that you were going to just come over at the end of
> the summer...what happened to that?
>
> This is all just very fishy!
>

> To: Leslie
> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 9:04 PM
> Subject: RE: Hello????
>
>
> Got your reply on ATT but now it's acting up so please use this email.... I
> don't what you are talking about... I haven't been on computer for most of
> the afternoon between 2 and 8:30 and only briefly then before I rested for
> work.. then recently I went to check 54 and it says it's been deleted by
> forum owner.... I am not looking for a fight - I am so done and over
> w/that... just wondered what was up....
>
----- Original Message -----
From: Leslie
To: devndilsmom@worldnet.att.net
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 2:44 AM
Subject: what?

what do you want? are you trying to gloat or something?

I don't find what happened the least bit amusing. Maybe YOU didn't do it but I am sure you know who did. How very clever, having a AOL person doing it so that I can't tell who did it. I didn't give you all that much credit for brains! I do know it was an east coast person so that narrows it down.

Ciao!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gunter, Angeline W CECOM ACQ
> Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 1:29 AM
> To: Leslie
> Subject: Hello????
> Importance: High
>
>
> Hey are you around???? I don't have aim at work but my email works....

You know - it's not enough I have a controlling, emotionally/verbally abusive alcoholic husband, 2 ADHD (1 also bipolar) children and a semi stressful schedule/job duties but I just NEED all this other drama – NOT!!!

I am sure that I am burning bridges here and some of you will no longer like me, hate me, curse me, be pissed off, avoid me like the plague, etc… but GET OVER IT, I am!!!! Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one, even me… 1st - these are my FEELINGS/THOUGHTS - I am entitled to them and I have every right to voice them… Note that I have put them HERE and not brought them to ANY board and attempted to taint things there… AND as my feelings and thoughts I would have thought that I could w/o hesitation be able to voice them w/o people I thought were my friends without being crucified and admonished… 2nd - All of this is just PETTY crap and we ALL have more important and better things to deal w/in our lives I am sure… For over 4 yrs the Oct 99 group has been a huge part of my world and I have made what I consider to be friends with some wonderful ladies thru it… I would like to have those friendships blossom and grow but for now I really needed to purge myself… I hold WAY WAY too much in regarding various aspects of my life and it just eats away and affects my health and happiness ---- I am not going to allow myself to do that anymore…

And that folks, as they say, is “the rest of the story”… So be sure to share w/all your friends, keep on coming back - we are just a ton of laughs around here... Til next time…

Friday, July 04, 2003

You get home from the across town fast food joint and discover something is missing.... it's hot, you're tired, the kids are whining and now you are pissed... SOOOO you call said establishment and tell them you were just there and ordered X, Y and Z... when you got home the was no Z.... SOOOO in all their brilliance they ask " Do you want to come back for them now or just get a credit for next time you are there..." Well now let's see - what would YOU do???? Tell them you aren't coming all the way over there now!! My god you were just there!!! Sooo what to they say?? No problem, Next time Z are free... Ummmm if I already paid for them how can they be free??? This puzzles me... and to be honest, you are gonna be rushing over there anytime soon for your free time??? *sigh*

Side note to self.... consider location of pool carefully before assembly and filling.... Once you realize said pool is not in the most opportune place it's a real BITCH to drain, relocate, setup and refill.... Be sure to have good reason to approach this endeavor for sure.... That being said, the pool is once again clean and ready to go in it's new location!! *L* Til next time...

HAPPY 4th of July!! HAPPY BIRTHDAY AMERICA!!!!!!

I hope you all are having a wonderful holiday day!! Enjoy your family and your cookouts!!! I am spending the day w/the kids!! E is working, we have the 2 little neighbor girls and a full pool! *L* I also MUST make some progress on atleast shoveling out the living room! *L* Well the kids tell me the pool is wonderful - I must go!! Happy 4th of July!!!! Til nex time...

Faults..... You know we all have them.... I know I do anyway... I have a ton!!! I am lazy, obsessed w/chatting on the internet, the worst housekeeper imaginable, I procrastinate, I yell at my children too much, I don't sleep enough yet seem to always be lounging, I watch too much tv, I have an odd sense of humor, I sometimes speak before my brain is engaged or I like the tact required when I do open my mouth, I am gullible and niave, and I often sound more gruff and perhaps rude, using a vocal tone more distainful then I mean to be.... But I do my best to work on these faults... or some of them anyway... But I am not always successful in restraining them....

I lost my temper at work yesterday.... My replacement was new and while he had received some instruction he didn't get all he needed or had some faulty info.... Day 2 of trying to instruct him on what he did wrong and how to correct it and I guess I just didn't have my bestest, nicest teacher voice on!! Well he raised his voice, I raised mine.... He tried to say "but that isn't how I was told to do it by X" and I tried to tell him that while X knows the job he isn't perfect either and since I have been there the longest of them all and am senior ranking I am telling him that this is how it is SUPPOSED to be done.... UGH!!! Eventually had to get a referee to step in! *L* Ok I do feel bad but damn it, it was day TWO of showing him the same/similar incorrect entries.... and it was 9am - I had been there for almost 10 hrs after a long day previously w/o sleep.... Well this morning did run more smoothly but seeing how he's an older man of his 60's and set in his ways and I am merely a young girl there is a slight amount of friction btwn us but I did my best to remain respectful and calm.... Of course too I have now invested all this time in him only to deal with the fact that he WON"T be back again so why did I bother???? *sigh* Til next time...

Thursday, July 03, 2003

THANK YOU Steph! For reminding me it's a very special lady's birthday today!! Kim I hope you are doing ok... I have missed chatting with you!!!!!

Well it's off to get the heathens ready for bed and such then MAYBE I can nap before work.... I'll be back later when I have a little more time... Til next time....

Well I had a fairly nice day today... I actually managed to get about 4 hrs of sleep!! Ahhhhhh it was very nice!!!

Took the boys to see fireworks tonight... the base and local town joined together and put on the display this evening on base... It was really nice... we sat in grass together and Dilen curled up on me and Deven sat on my leg and we just oooohed and ahhhhed together... We have been talking about God alot lately as I try to guide my heathens on a more spiritual path and of course we have dealt with some death lately... SOO as we are watching the fireworks go off and commenting on our favorite colors (Deven green, Dilen blue, Mommy likes purple/blue) Dilen asked me as the most recent shot exploded and faded off if God was putting the fireworks out!! *L* It was sooo cute he would ask that and of course I was sooo unprepared for a science lesson!! I said no but he was watching them and enjoying the show.... *WHEW* another deep discussion quickly avoided as that seemed an acceptable answer to him! Overall it was a really nice turn I have to say.... Now I am looking forward to seeing more on Friday night from the other local towns...

Lots of strife abound lately and it's really not sitting well w/me but more on that later I think... For now I am gonna just try to relax and remain calm.... I will say that if anyone has a question or concern just ask me - I will gladly answer you!!!

The trip to Canada is only 7 days away and I am soooooo looking forward to a few days away from home and the computer/internet... It's gonna be a great time... Mostly just vegging at the pool and sitting around talking with the ladies!!!! Now if I could get a full list of who is actually gonna be there! *L* I hope we have a nice size group coming!!! I know of 7 ladies but I am sure there must be one or two others atleast!!! I'll have to work on finding out!

Well it's time to head over to the other puter and get my briefing paper work done for the night so I can rest - it's summer camp day tomorrow (later today) and I wanna grab a cat nap.... Til next time...

Oh yeah... PS.. pick a comment, any comment! *L* I am experimenting w/the comment systems so you aren't seeing double.. there are 2 sets there!!! Be sure to say HELLO and let me know you stopped by!!!

Wednesday, July 02, 2003

You know it's really amazing what one can do to totally waste a day..... I don't know what I did today but I managed to do most of it w/o my ass leaving the chair! *L* Of course I am very tired now.... BUT I did manage to cook dinner, get the majority of the dishes done and 2 loads of laundry... My coop de resistance (use your french accent here!) was after sitting on my ass all day just before E got home I threw a load in dryer, a load in washer and moved around the dishes in sink... when E walked in it looked as if I had actually did something all day! *L* But I MUST nap later today and tomorrow I WILL manage to get SOMETHING done in house for real....

For tonight I am trapped in this vault w/a man that has known my dad FOREVER... thus he's known ME forever and I am forced to hear stories over and over.... I am tempted to call my Dad and tell him they are holding me ransome til he sends $$ or plane tickets! *L* I need to call him anyway..... hmmmmmmm

SOOOO there are only NINE more days til the great Canadian Meet!!! I am sooo looking forward to seeing Stacy, Kelli and Karin and Cassie!! And meeting Brenda and Kathryn!! I know there are a couple of others but I am not sure who all is attending!! WOOO HOOO It's gonna be a great weekend!!!! And speaking of ParentsPlace/Ivillage... After a few inquiries repeatedly for a new, easier to navigate, conversational friendly board I caved in..... Those of us that are just plain fed up w/PP/IV and wish to join in the converation and actually feel like you are chatting w/someong can find us over here Oct99PG It's a much nicer place then the old PP/IV and EVERYONE is more then welcome to join in and say hello!!!! I look forward to many great discussions such as those of old....

Well tomorrow (later today) is gonna be another long day for me so I better go finish up my work and see if I can grab a few zzzzz's -- esp since the shift leader asked me a question and ruined my train of thought! *L* BTW if you are stopping by to check up on me be sure to say hello!!! I love having visitors here - esp since it's soo much more tidy then my own living room! *L* Til next time....

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